I received this in my morning email, with permission to post it for the lulz. Bet you didn’t know the B in David B. Boyer stands for Butthurt. Note his demand to remove “any negative blog posts or other slanderous or threatening geared toward me” within 10-14 days. I question the legality of whatever he’s been smoking. Better call a waahmbulance.
Feel free to publish
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Subject: Re: the proper form Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 08:55:23 -0500 From: Janrae Frank <janraefrank@gmail.com> Reply-To: janraefrank@gmail.com To: David Boyer <nvfmagazine@gmail.com>, xxxxxxxxx <xxxxxxxx@gmail.com> My Dear Mr. Boyer,
I am looking forward to my day in court with you. You may not be aware of this, but plagiarism is a crime. A very serious crime. Furthermore, the truth is not slander. And slander is not printed. It is spoken.
I would also like to refer you to the fact that the Supreme Court of the United States has ruled that blogs are opinion. And, under the first amendment to the constitution of this wonderful country, they are not actionable.
And now, as the Scarlet Pimpernel once said, “Pray continue.”
Enjoy.
On 11/10/2010 8:24 AM, David Boyer wrote: Butthurt.com?! Surely you jest. This is NOT the proper form to sent to the Indiana state attorney general. Why don’t I include this in MY large, 8 by 11, manilla envelope full of MY evidence, that I plan to send to him tomorrow morning? You and Rick and your daughter are ALL mentioned in there, too. I think I will include this in there, he will get a real chuckle out of it.
Oh, and by the way, want some friendly advice? If there are any negative blog posts or other slanderous or threatening geared toward me and including YOUR name, I’d be removing, within 10 to 14 days. That is the amount of time a rep for the attorney general said it would take for my original inquiry to be processed.Just a thought.
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Janrae Frank <janraefrank@gmail.com> wrote:
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Rusty…I’m not sure, but since Boyer has a confidentialty notice at the end of the email, you could possible face some legal trouble (assuming he’s as motivated to sue as the email indicated) for posting it. Obviously Janrae has the full right to share HER email with you, but I think she and you *might* have to have Boyer’s permission to share his email. Again, I could be completely wrong about this…but I wanted to say something just in case.
What lawyer is going to care? I can imagine Boyer sending off a giant envelope of crap to the Indiana AG, who has nothing better to do than open mail by crackpots, whiners, and Internet tough guys.
My bet? he’s about to try something new, and needs his name not to show up as a loser and a fraud o the first page of the Google search.
The confidentiality statement is pretty much toothless unless you are a corporation.
That’s what I’ve read too. However, I just wanted to put it out there. Just in case.
I’d also like to point out, that technically, I am the intended recipient — of the email Janrae sent me.
Funnily enough, I’m looking forward to your day in court too, Mr Boyer. 🙂 And may there be a lot of them.
I would think that there would have to be a confidentiality agreement between both parties for it to be substantial. To simply send hate mail to someone and say “keep this to yourself” wouldn’t hold up in any court for being shared (my opinion, because I don’t know for sure).
When I discovered David Boyer had something posted at http://kcsbooks.blogspot.com/
I contacted Kristin, the owner, and informed her:
“David Boyer, I’m sorry to inform you, is a plagiarist. He’s effectively been caught red-handed by many writers/editors/publishers, which is the real reason he’s “now in the process of abandoning the genre in favor of a more toned down and Christian-themed books”.”
She replied:
“I have pulled today’s post featuring David Boyer until further investigations can be done. Thanks for the heads up.
“Kristin”
And now this is the new post there:
In light of information that has been presented I have to decided to remove today’s Writer Wednesday blog post until I can further investigate. In the event these serious accusations are found to be true I will apologize to you readers. In the event that they are not I will republish the original post with an apology to this week’s guest.
Thanks for your patience and understanding.
Kristin
I’ll keep my fingers crossed that she finds the stuff on Writer Beware and Absolute Write about Boyer.
As much as I hate to agree with Boyer, he may have a point about butthurt.com. Surely you know, Jan, that the correct address to which his complaints should be forwarded is jumpupmybutt.com!
Somebody grab some screens!
http://shocklinesforum.yuku.com/topic/16780
Oh, lordy. That’s not going to last long.
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm273/the-rusty-nail/Shocklines%20Nov2010/Aresponsetotheallegationsagainstme-SL.png
Wow. Things are heating up.
Rusty: In a subsequent communication, I pointed her in the right direction.
I posted a response but then it disappeared. Matt’s not on so maybe Yuku is acting up.
http://shocklinesforum.yuku.com/topic/16781
Excellent, Pete. Folks new to TRN tend to not take it seriously, but Writer Beware and Absolute Write carry a little more weight.
Screengrab, version 2:
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm273/the-rusty-nail/Shocklines%20Nov2010/Aresponsetotheallegationsagainstme-v2.png
Now with MOAR Jerrod!
Here’s the screengrab for Boyer’s “Ludicrous Emails” SL thread.
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm273/the-rusty-nail/Shocklines%20Nov2010/Ludicrousemailspart1-SL.png
Rusty, I included a link to Writer Beware in my email to her.
http://shocklinesforum.yuku.com/topic/16780/t/A-response-to-the-allegations-against-me.html
It is just growing and growing. He’s trying very hard to sound like he knows what he is saying over there with phrases like “In closing…”
I think he watched too many Saturday morning courtroom cartoons.
Damn, I’m sick one day and miss all the fun.
That’s how I feel after days of no Nitwit activity, think it’s safe to go to bed early, and wake up to 20+ comments worth of ‘splodey goodness in my inbox.
While incredibly entertaining, “Harvey Birdman” is not a viable source for legal information.
But he writes all my contracts!
Boyer’s contracts probably have this teeny tiny lil print at the bottom that says, “publisher reserves the right to plagiarize the work of this author.”
Wonder who “Brad Hodson” is. Hmm…
Brad Hodson was connected to the Indie Filmmakers project with Dave.
He beat feet.
“Brad Hodson – Voices (TPB $13) & Midnight Lullabies (TPB $15.99) both anthologies ”
http://scarletstreet.yuku.com/search/topic/topic/5496
I find the timing very interesting.
the pages have been taken down, but google has them cached.
I think Hodson has been picking up on what is going on.
Ah… “Tin Foil” Dave. Whining about how his act of plagiarism is Someone Else’s Fault, and threatens people with an e-lawyer attack.
How much you want to bet he swiped that idea from Nikki?
Or Dagstine.
Amazing how being a shithead seems to leave no room for creativity.
and they have both been locked
http://i55.tinypic.com/2z9cw9u.png
The thread Harry Shannon started appears to have been bahleeted.
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Kudos to House of Horror for calling Matt out on his douchebaggery and protection of the Nitwits: http://shocklinesforum.yuku.com/topic/16786/t/Matt-are-you-stupid.html
Alas, he’ll never answer any direct questions on such matters. Such is His Doucheness.
Maybe he’d be happier running a forum about rainbows, lollipops, and unicorns. You know — the sort of thing where shiny happy people discuss their scrap books, and where to buy glue.
I should be getting another email from him shortly. He does not seem to know when he is beaten.
Although Kristin from CT removed her Boyer interview, or whatever it was, she later posted that she found no evidence posted by any of the victims themselves. I don’t know what she bothered to read, but it obviously wasn’t anything by Rick Moore, Lisa Morton, or any of the publishers who were duped by him. And, she as much as stated she can’t be bothered looking any further than she already has.
I can understand not wanting to be bothered. But, to imply it probably didn’t happen because she didn’t read any evidence from the victims themselves shows a certain level of ignorance about what can and can’t be said publicly by someone pursuing legal remedy, which goes beyond run-of-the-mill apathy.
The evidence is all over the place. What a maroon.
Quick! Get your screengrab before Matty bahleetes it.
Tin Foil Dave’s butthurt is looking awfully baboon-like right about now.
I love how he clarifies he isn’t a cocksucker, but doesn’t do the same for motherfucker.
Ramsey Campbell’s reply was chock full o’ WIN. I’m surprised Matty didn’t delete it.
That was a great post. Even he couldn’t deny the world that one!
Oh, and Davey claims, once again, he’s been HAXXORED!
http://shocklinesforum.yuku.com/topic/16791/t/Shocklines-a-hacker-s-resource.html
Matty responded to both these threads, then locked them.
“Word GETS AROUND.”
No shit, Sherlock. It certainly does.
Sorry, “Tin Foil,” but it looks like you’ve been taking your cues from idiots like Dagswine and La Dumb Nikita. All you need to do is rant here and threaten us with e-lawyers and the cycle is complete.
Hacked his PC… He must think the rest of the world is as dumb as he is.
Whoah! How did I get connected to Boyer?
I have never had any connection to Boyer whatsoever, unless he stole something I wrote that I’m not aware of. He first came to my attention because I’m in a writers group with Lisa Morton, whose story he seems to have stolen and passed off as his own. Aside from that, I just recently decided to become active in forums and see what’s going on in the horror community at large and thought I’d chime in.
Please, please, please, DO NOT associate me with Doc Byron! I like to think I have some integrity, after all.
I was also just recently in John Skipp’s “Werewolves and Shapeshifters” anthology and did the panel with him at the Weekend of Horrors. I just want to say that because now I’m paranoid people are going to think I’m just another one of “Iron Dave’s” aliases. I’m real!
And I’m also very paranoid, apparently 🙂
So let me go on the record saying: this guy is a plagiarist and scum and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Seriously, I’m just starting out which is why you haven’t heard from me. But I am a member of the HWA and if you want to know about me Lisa, Del Howison, Tom Monteleone, and Gary Braunbeck can all vouch that I do exist and I’m pretty anti-Boyer.
I never thought you were one of his aliases, I thought you were one of his victims, but was not certain how to ask. He did use your name in that press release.
If anything, I think the general thought was that any connection between you, Brad, and “Tin Foil” Dave was either coincidental or the result of him plagiarizing your work.
Guys…Brad Hodson’s a good friend of mine. He’s a terrific writer and filmmaker. He’s got a novel coming out next year from Bad Moon, and he posted partly in my defense on Shocklines. I’ll take it as a personal favor if we can leave Brad out of this, because he’s most certainly NOT involved with Boyer in any possible way.
Copied and understood.
Wow, “Tin Foil” Dave has been using all the big plays from the Nitwit Playbook over on Schmucklines.
Too bad the only person sticking up for him (by not deleting his posts) is Matt.
Thanks, guys. I was just trying to make sure Boyer’s stink doesn’t stick to me just because he’s tossing my name around.
And why toss my name around? I’m a nobody. What good does that do him? Not that he’s a rational person, obviously. This guy’s made me scratch my head so many times my hair’s falling out.
Like I’ve said before, I think the best thing about the internet these days is that people can’t get away with antics like Boyer’s anymore. This single page alone has taken him to task enough that anyone who was approached by him and Googles his name is bound to read what’s going on.
It seems to me that his continued posts on Shocklines are way to bait people into attacking in a misguided way to build his legal defense around harassment when his posts are responded to. What he should do is hire a lawyer, who would advise him to keep quiet about his case and stay off the boards. Even if he WERE innocent he’s only digging his grave deeper.
Oh wait… you have Gary Braunbeck in your corner? Well cheese louise… I’ve got my eye on you mister! If any of Gary’s awesomeness has rubbed off on you, I’m … gonna … buy your stuff! Whadya think of that, tough guy? 🙂
(This post was brought to you by wine, turning Christians into disciples of Dionysus since God Knows When) 🙂
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